We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago

Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.

Joel Hamernick is the executive director of Sunshine Gospel Ministries and Sunshine Enterprises, based in Woodlawn, a neighborhood on Chicago's south side.

Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ is the founder of Homeboy Industries in L.A. We talk about his three decades of work to heal the trauma of gang violence in the city, and discuss his new book, Barking at the Choir: The Power of Radical Kinship.