#1804 - Learning to Listen: Joel Hamernick

Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.

Joel Hamernick is the executive director of Sunshine Gospel Ministries and Sunshine Enterprises, based in Woodlawn, a neighborhood on Chicago's south side.